August 6, 2025
Global Value

Matthew Fine, Third Avenue Value Fund PM, featured on the International Value Panel at the 12th Annual Ben Graham Conference hosted by the CFA Society of New York.

Describe Third Avenue and its Investment Philosophy.

Summary:

  • We practice one investment philosophy at Third Avenue which is fundamental, bottom up, long-term value investing.
  • We look to buy businesses at a significant discount to a conservative estimate of Net Asset Value.
  • As contrarian value investors, we aim to buy grey clouds and sell sunshine.

What are you looking for when building an international portfolio?

Summary:

  • It's incredibly difficult to find bargains in the U.S., which forces us to look for cheapness internationally.  
  • We worry about all different types of risks including currency risk, leverage risk, political risk, control party risks, etc.
  • Alignment of interests: Matt has a significant portion of his personal wealth invested alongside our shareholders.
  • Third Avenue seeks well-financed companies to build attractive portfolios from the bottom up that look nothing like an index.

What is misunderstood about International Investing?

Summary:

  • The fund is significantly underweight the U.S. (~13% vs. ~70% in benchmark) due to difficulty finding value domestically. Fine emphasizes valuation gaps between U.S. and international equities, often overlooked despite strong fundamentals abroad.

Where are the buyers for non-U.S. value equities?

Summary:

  • Matthew stresses economic yield and cash flow return over multiple expansion.  You should think about buying a business where the actual economics of the underlying business provide an adequate return to you as a shareholder.  Example: Subaru, Bank of Ireland.
  • When you buy a business at 5.5x earnings, that’s close to a ~20% free cash flow yield. Now you may not need that re-rating and it also means returns are now more dependent on intrinsic business economics.

How are Tariffs and currency volatility affecting international investing?

Summary:

  • Matt views tariffs and currency volatility not just as risks, but also as opportunities—e.g. Japan's volatile yen created buying opportunities in companies like Subaru.
  • Copper miners in the portfolio benefit from global supply tightness and geopolitical fragmentation, which amplifies pricing power and long-term structural opportunity.

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